Author, professor and retired New York Supreme Court judge, Diane Kiesel, talks about her latest book, When Charlie Met Joan: The Tragedy of the Chaplin Trials and the Failings of American Law. It is set to be published in February 2025 by the University of Michigan Press. While serving as a judge, Kiesel continued her career as a writer of non-fiction that began years before when she was a journalist in Washington, D.C. where she reported on Congress and the Supreme Court for several California newspapers. Kiesel has authored two editions of a textbook on domestic violence law, and an award-winning biography of Dr. Dorothy Boulding, a civil rights pioneer. Diane Kiesel was interviewed by fellow biographer and BIO member Debby Applegate.